Journals of the Senate
2 Charles III , A.D. 2023, Canada
1st Session, 44th Parliament
Issue 159 (Unrevised)
Thursday, November 9, 2023
2 p.m.
The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
AtaullahjanAudetteBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoyerBureyBussonCardozoClementCordyCormierCotterCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DowneDuncanDupuisForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOhOslerPatterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasWallinWells
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
AtaullahjanAudetteBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoyerBureyBussonCardozoClementCordyCormierCotterCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DowneDuncanDupuisForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOhOslerPatterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasWallinWells
The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.
An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.
PRAYERS
Senators’ Statements
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Tabling of Documents
The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson tabled the following:
Supplementary Estimates (B) 2023-24.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2403.
Departmental Results Reports for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023:
Accessibility Standards Canada
Administrative Tribunals Support Service of Canada
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada
Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency
Canada Border Services Agency
Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions
Canada Energy Regulator
Canada Revenue Agency
Canada School of Public Service
Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety
Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Canadian Grain Commission
Canadian Heritage
Canadian Human Rights Commission
Canadian Institutes of Health Research
Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat
Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency
Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission
Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission
Canadian Space Agency
Canadian Transportation Agency
Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Copyright Board of Canada
Correctional Service of Canada
Courts Administration Service
Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada
Department of Finance Canada
Department of Justice Canada
Employment and Social Development Canada
Environment and Climate Change Canada
Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario
Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario
Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada
Fisheries and Oceans Canada
Global Affairs Canada
Health Canada
Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
Impact Assessment Agency of Canada
Indigenous Services Canada
Infrastructure Canada
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada
Invest in Canada Hub
Library and Archives Canada
Military Grievances External Review Committee
Military Police Complaints Commission of Canada
National Battlefields Commission
National Defence and the Canadian Armed Forces
National Film Board
National Research Council of Canada
National Security and Intelligence Review Agency
Natural Resources Canada
Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada
Northern Pipeline Agency Canada
Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Office of the Chief Electoral Officer
Office of the Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs Canada
Office of the Commissioner of Lobbying of Canada
Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Office of the Correctional Investigator
Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada
Office of the Intelligence Commissioner
Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada
Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner of Canada
Office of the Registrar of the Supreme Court of Canada
Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Canada
Pacific Economic Development Canada
Parks Canada
Parole Board of Canada
Patented Medicine Prices Review Board Canada
Polar Knowledge Canada
Prairies Economic Development Canada
Privy Council Office
Public Health Agency of Canada
Public Prosecution Service of Canada
Public Safety Canada
Public Service Commission of Canada
Public Services and Procurement Canada
RCMP External Review Committee
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians
Shared Services Canada
Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council
Statistics Canada
Transport Canada
Transportation Safety Board of Canada
Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
Veterans Affairs Canada
Veterans Review and Appeal Board
Women and Gender Equality Canada—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2404.
Question Period
The Senate proceeded to Question Period.
Delayed Answers
Pursuant to rule 4-10(2), the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson tabled the following:
Reply to Question No. 200, dated February 2, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the legalization of cannabis — Canada Revenue Agency.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2405S.
Reply to Question No. 200, dated February 2, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the legalization of cannabis — Health Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2406S.
Reply to Question No. 251, dated September 19, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding Fisheries and Oceans Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2407S.
Reply to Question No. 254, dated September 19, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the Canada Grain Act review.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2408S.
Reply to Question No. 260, dated September 19, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding Veterans Affairs Canada and the provision of benefits or services to family members of veterans who are in federal or provincial prisons.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2409S.
Orders of the Day
Government Business
Bills – Third Reading
Order No. 2 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees – Other
Orders No. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Orders No. 1, 131 and 132 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, seconded by the Honourable Senator Audette:
That the report on the Statutes Repeal Act for the year 2023, tabled in the Senate on February 1, 2023, be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs for examination and report; and
That the committee submit its report to the Senate no later than Tuesday, December 5, 2023.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C.:
That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, November 21, 2023, at 2 p.m.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Inquiries
Orders No. 3, 4 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Other Business
Commons Public Bills – Third Reading
Third reading of Bill C-234, An Act to amend the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act.
The Honourable Senator Wells moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Batters, that the bill be read for a third time.
After debate,
In amendment, the Honourable Senator Moncion moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dupuis:
That Bill C-234 be not now read a third time, but that it be amended, in clause 2,
(a) on page 2, by replacing lines 24 to 37 with the following:
“of the day on which this Act comes into force.”;
(b) on page 3, by deleting lines 1 to 9.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Clement moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the motion in amendment be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted on the following vote:
YEAS
The Honourable Senators
AudetteBoehmBonifaceBussonCardozoClementCordyCormierCotterCuznerDalphondDaskoDeacon (Ontario)DupuisForestFrancisGoldHarderHartlingKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMiville-DechêneMoncionPetitclercPettenRinguetteSaint-GermainSimons—29
NAYS
The Honourable Senators
AtaullahjanBattersBlackBoisvenuBureyDagenaisGignacGreeneHousakosKlyneMacDonaldMarshallMartinMcCallumMcPhedranOhOslerPatterson (Ontario)PlettProsperQuinnRichardsSeidmanWells—24
ABSTENTIONS
The Honourable Senators
Nil
Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills – Second Reading
Orders No. 1, 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos, for the second reading of Bill S-220, An Act to amend the Languages Skills Act (Governor General).
The Honourable Senator Ringuette moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted, on division.
Orders No. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 and 24 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario), seconded by the Honourable Senator Busson, for the second reading of Bill S-269, An Act respecting a national framework on advertising for sports betting.
Debate.
DEFERRED VOTES
At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to rule 9-10(2), the Senate proceeded to the taking of the deferred standing vote on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator McCallum, to the motion of the Honourable Senator Audette, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, for the third reading of Bill C-29, An Act to provide for the establishment of a national council for reconciliation, as amended.
The question being put on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator McPhedran:
That Bill C-29, as amended, be not now read a third time, but that it be further amended in the preamble, on page 1, by replacing line 1 with the following:
“Whereas, since time immemorial, First Nations and Inuit peo-”.
The motion in amendment was negatived on the following vote:
YEAS
The Honourable Senators
AtaullahjanBoisvenuKlyneMarshallMcCallumMcPhedranOhOslerProsperQuinnRichardsWells—12
NAYS
The Honourable Senators
AudetteBlackBoehmBonifaceBussonCardozoClementCormierCotterCuznerDagenaisDaskoDeacon (Ontario)ForestFrancisGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingJafferKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMiville-DechêneMoncionPetitclercPettenRinguetteSaint-Germain—30
ABSTENTIONS
The Honourable Senators
BattersCordyDalphondHousakosMacDonaldMartinPatterson (Ontario)PlettSeidman—9
The Senate resumed debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Audette, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, for the third reading of Bill C-29, An Act to provide for the establishment of a national council for reconciliation, as amended.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Martin:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
ADJOURNMENT
At 5:39 p.m., pursuant to the order adopted by the Senate earlier today, the Senate adjourned until Tuesday, November 21, 2023, at 2 p.m.
DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)
Service Fees Report of the Department of Health for 2022 to 2023, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2400.
Service Fees Report of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency for 2022 to 2023, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2401.
Service Fees Report of the Public Health Agency of Canada for 2022 to 2023, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2402.
Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5
Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Commerce and the Economy
The Honourable Senator Galvez replaced the Honourable Senator Yussuff (November 9, 2023).
Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples
The Honourable Senator Arnot replaced the Honourable Senator Dupuis (November 9, 2023).
Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration
The Honourable Senator MacDonald replaced the Honourable Senator Marshall (November 9, 2023).
Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs
The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Kutcher (November 9, 2023).
Standing Senate Committee on National Finance
The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Petten (November 9, 2023).
Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology
The Honourable Senator Bernard replaced the Honourable Senator Cardozo (November 9, 2023).