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Journals of the Senate

2 Charles III , A.D. 2023, Canada

1st Session, 44th Parliament

Issue 159 (Unrevised)

Thursday, November 9, 2023
2 p.m.

The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AtaullahjanAudetteBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoyerBureyBussonCardozoClementCordyCormierCotterCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DowneDuncanDupuisForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOhOslerPatterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasWallinWells

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AtaullahjanAudetteBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoyerBureyBussonCardozoClementCordyCormierCotterCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DowneDuncanDupuisForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOhOslerPatterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasWallinWells

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Tabling of Documents

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson tabled the following:

Supplementary Estimates (B) 2023-24.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2403.

Departmental Results Reports for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023:

Accessibility Standards Canada

Administrative Tribunals Support Service of Canada

Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada

Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

Canada Border Services Agency

Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions

Canada Energy Regulator

Canada Revenue Agency

Canada School of Public Service

Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety

Canadian Food Inspection Agency

Canadian Grain Commission

Canadian Heritage

Canadian Human Rights Commission

Canadian Institutes of Health Research

Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat

Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency

Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission

Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission

Canadian Space Agency

Canadian Transportation Agency

Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Copyright Board of Canada

Correctional Service of Canada

Courts Administration Service

Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada

Department of Finance Canada

Department of Justice Canada

Employment and Social Development Canada

Environment and Climate Change Canada

Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario

Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario

Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada

Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Global Affairs Canada

Health Canada

Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada

Impact Assessment Agency of Canada

Indigenous Services Canada

Infrastructure Canada

Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada

Invest in Canada Hub

Library and Archives Canada

Military Grievances External Review Committee

Military Police Complaints Commission of Canada

National Battlefields Commission

National Defence and the Canadian Armed Forces

National Film Board

National Research Council of Canada

National Security and Intelligence Review Agency

Natural Resources Canada

Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada

Northern Pipeline Agency Canada

Office of the Auditor General of Canada

Office of the Chief Electoral Officer

Office of the Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs Canada

Office of the Commissioner of Lobbying of Canada

Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Office of the Correctional Investigator

Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada

Office of the Intelligence Commissioner

Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada

Office of the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner of Canada

Office of the Registrar of the Supreme Court of Canada

Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Canada

Pacific Economic Development Canada

Parks Canada

Parole Board of Canada

Patented Medicine Prices Review Board Canada

Polar Knowledge Canada

Prairies Economic Development Canada

Privy Council Office

Public Health Agency of Canada

Public Prosecution Service of Canada

Public Safety Canada

Public Service Commission of Canada

Public Services and Procurement Canada

RCMP External Review Committee

Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Secretariat of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians

Shared Services Canada

Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council

Statistics Canada

Transport Canada

Transportation Safety Board of Canada

Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat

Veterans Affairs Canada

Veterans Review and Appeal Board

Women and Gender Equality Canada—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2404.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Delayed Answers

Pursuant to rule 4-10(2), the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson tabled the following:

Reply to Question No. 200, dated February 2, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the legalization of cannabis — Canada Revenue Agency.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2405S.

Reply to Question No. 200, dated February 2, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the legalization of cannabis — Health Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2406S.

Reply to Question No. 251, dated September 19, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding Fisheries and Oceans Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2407S.

Reply to Question No. 254, dated September 19, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the Canada Grain Act review.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2408S.

Reply to Question No. 260, dated September 19, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding Veterans Affairs Canada and the provision of benefits or services to family members of veterans who are in federal or provincial prisons.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2409S.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Third Reading

Order No. 2 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 1, 131 and 132 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

o o o

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, seconded by the Honourable Senator Audette:

That the report on the Statutes Repeal Act for the year 2023, tabled in the Senate on February 1, 2023, be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs for examination and report; and

That the committee submit its report to the Senate no later than Tuesday, December 5, 2023.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

o o o

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C.:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, November 21, 2023, at 2 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Inquiries

Orders No. 3, 4 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Commons Public Bills – Third Reading

Third reading of Bill C-234, An Act to amend the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Batters, that the bill be read for a third time.

After debate,

In amendment, the Honourable Senator Moncion moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dupuis:

That Bill C-234 be not now read a third time, but that it be amended, in clause 2,

(a) on page 2, by replacing lines 24 to 37 with the following:

of the day on which this Act comes into force.”;

(b) on page 3, by deleting lines 1 to 9.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Clement moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the motion in amendment be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted on the following vote:

YEAS

The Honourable Senators

AudetteBoehmBonifaceBussonCardozoClementCordyCormierCotterCuznerDalphondDaskoDeacon (Ontario)DupuisForestFrancisGoldHarderHartlingKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMiville-DechêneMoncionPetitclercPettenRinguetteSaint-GermainSimons—29

NAYS

The Honourable Senators

AtaullahjanBattersBlackBoisvenuBureyDagenaisGignacGreeneHousakosKlyneMacDonaldMarshallMartinMcCallumMcPhedranOhOslerPatterson (Ontario)PlettProsperQuinnRichardsSeidmanWells—24

ABSTENTIONS

The Honourable Senators

Nil

Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

o o o

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos, for the second reading of Bill S-220, An Act to amend the Languages Skills Act (Governor General).

The Honourable Senator Ringuette moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted, on division.

o o o

Orders No. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 and 24 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

o o o

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario), seconded by the Honourable Senator Busson, for the second reading of Bill S-269, An Act respecting a national framework on advertising for sports betting.

Debate.

DEFERRED VOTES

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to rule 9-10(2), the Senate proceeded to the taking of the deferred standing vote on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator McCallum, to the motion of the Honourable Senator Audette, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, for the third reading of Bill C-29, An Act to provide for the establishment of a national council for reconciliation, as amended.

The question being put on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator McPhedran:

That Bill C-29, as amended, be not now read a third time, but that it be further amended in the preamble, on page 1, by replacing line 1 with the following:

“Whereas, since time immemorial, First Nations and Inuit peo-”.

The motion in amendment was negatived on the following vote:

YEAS

The Honourable Senators

AtaullahjanBoisvenuKlyneMarshallMcCallumMcPhedranOhOslerProsperQuinnRichardsWells—12

NAYS

The Honourable Senators

AudetteBlackBoehmBonifaceBussonCardozoClementCormierCotterCuznerDagenaisDaskoDeacon (Ontario)ForestFrancisGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingJafferKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMiville-DechêneMoncionPetitclercPettenRinguetteSaint-Germain—30

ABSTENTIONS

The Honourable Senators

BattersCordyDalphondHousakosMacDonaldMartinPatterson (Ontario)PlettSeidman—9

The Senate resumed debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Audette, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, for the third reading of Bill C-29, An Act to provide for the establishment of a national council for reconciliation, as amended.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Martin:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 5:39 p.m., pursuant to the order adopted by the Senate earlier today, the Senate adjourned until Tuesday, November 21, 2023, at 2 p.m.

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Service Fees Report of the Department of Health for 2022 to 2023, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2400.

Service Fees Report of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency for 2022 to 2023, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2401.

Service Fees Report of the Public Health Agency of Canada for 2022 to 2023, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2402.

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Commerce and the Economy

The Honourable Senator Galvez replaced the Honourable Senator Yussuff (November 9, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples

The Honourable Senator Arnot replaced the Honourable Senator Dupuis (November 9, 2023).

Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration

The Honourable Senator MacDonald replaced the Honourable Senator Marshall (November 9, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Kutcher (November 9, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Petten (November 9, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Bernard replaced the Honourable Senator Cardozo (November 9, 2023).

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